Curse

Rayne Nightfyre · Apr 17, 2006, 12:00 AM // 00:00

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Originally Posted by Misc Merik

To add to your point dont knock people who have rank and dont act like an elitist jerk about it. Ive had that silly bambi forever now and rarely use it in towns just because people tend to get the wrong view of you when you do use it. If anything I just use it to get into R3+ balanced groups that are looking for a decent shock war. Other than that slight add on I couldnt agree more. Im lost in fow without some hardcore people in my team who know what monsters are doing down there. omg I just realized im not godly at everything... must fix that

Absolutely, of course there are people out there, such as yourself, that simply rock at PvP and deserve every fame and rank point they have. The same goes for PvE'ers, they are two different aspects and their players shouldn't really be compared regarding general skill. The bottom line is that PvP'ers are no better than PvE'ers, and PvE'ers are no better than PvP'ers.

Misc Merik · Apr 17, 2006, 12:03 AM // 00:03

Agreed Im glad you summed it up better than I did. I could of just went on forever how the two balance each other out... o there im ranting again

/end rant.

Evilsod · Apr 17, 2006, 12:07 AM // 00:07

PvP rank will make you godly at PvE so therefore everyone must bow down to you.

Elitist pricks that seem to think this are too damn common. I remember seeing 'Rank 8 runner heading to xxxx' in LA once. He seemed to honestly think that Rank 8 made him good at running. If you run the flag maybe, but when your running the flag how often do you come up against 50 enemies?

Kakumei · Apr 17, 2006, 12:10 AM // 00:10

This thread would serve a better purpose if it were a random 'did you know?' kind of thread, as the first post suggests, rather than a typical 'pve vs pvp' or 'rank is meaningless/not meaningless' thread.

On the 'did you know' front, since a lot of people seem to get this confused, using an EXPERT salvage kit on a MONSTER-DROPPED armor with a rune in it will ALWAYS yield the rune. However, attempting to expert salvage YOUR armor will NOT ALWAYS yield the rune.

Lexar · Apr 17, 2006, 12:13 AM // 00:13

Most common misconception from outsiders to the game is that the levelling works like in other mmorpgs, and thus that because the level cap is at 20, that the game must be short.

They should in fact never have called it levels in the first place, maybe it would have gotten even more purchases. Almost on every forum, message board or whatever, there's always someone who thinks like this.

Rayne Nightfyre · Apr 17, 2006, 12:14 AM // 00:14

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

PvP rank will make you godly at PvE so therefore everyone must bow down to you.

Elitist pricks that seem to think this are too damn common. I remember seeing 'Rank 8 runner heading to xxxx' in LA once. He seemed to honestly think that Rank 8 made him good at running. If you run the flag maybe, but when your running the flag how often do you come up against 50 enemies?

Agreed, rank has nothing to do with your knowledge of various map and creature mob layouts. High-ranked "elitists" use their rank to seemingly compensate for any deficiency found on their part. For example, I was standing in LA-1 the other day, and some random R/Mo comes up to me, likely noticing my armor, and starts spamming his /rank emote in front of me(which was ammusingly the deer). I laughed, but it illustrates how some "elitist" PvP'ers seem to think their rank gives them authority over PvE players. Again, they are two separate aspects of the game and should not be compared.

Let's end the Rank vs. PvE argument.

DJ Josh · Apr 17, 2006, 12:22 AM // 00:22

your char should have xxxx in there skill bar-play with skills find what build you like and ignore the noobs that try to tell you how to play(this comes from someone trying to get me to change my mo/w to mo/me,until i reminded them that,as i only use monk skills when playing in groups,all i needed to do was heal and keep everyone alive,which of course i did,this was in thk and i ended up being the only monk half way through).

and about the time it takes to fully do the game,my me/mo is only 88.5 hours old and has done every quest/mission + sf/tombs and a few trips to uw/fow.so god knows where the 100+ hours comes from.also my monk is a little younger and as done more,content wise,than my mesmer.

i should also add that i have never,on all 6 chars,been run or used an overpowered team as i like to play my games to there fullest and don't like shortcuts.

and to mesmers being s***,i have never had so many people begging(yes literaly)me join there guilds for being,as they put it,awsome as when i played through with my mesmer.i have never been one to dis any profesion but i admit i never realy understood how powerful and useful the mesmer was until playing 1 through the game.

Misc Merik · Apr 17, 2006, 12:22 AM // 00:22

Another misconception at least when im trying to convince new people to join is in fact loot. My friend is a huge WoW player and instantly asks me where is the best loot in this game when he logs on. All I can really tell him is there is no "godly" items just preference on items appearence. He didnt grasp that and in about 3 months I bought his account off him for 15 bucks, because he was in desperate need of gas money.

Rayne Nightfyre · Apr 17, 2006, 12:27 AM // 00:27

Lol, it is indeed somewhat hard for players of other games such as WoW to grasp the new concepts brought in by ArenaNet. Regarding armor and loot, basically it comes down to apperance vs. performance. If you want both, you'll likely be after a very rare item. If you want just performance, it's easy to get your hands on an item that gets the job done equally as well as a more rare item.(Examples: Fissure armor vs. Droknar's armor, 15^50 Crystalline vs. 15^50 Droknar's crafter sword).

jackie · Apr 17, 2006, 12:32 AM // 00:32

Common misconseption: Guild Wars owns your soul... Wait damn they are right

DJ Josh · Apr 17, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37

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Originally Posted by jackie

Common misconseption: Guild Wars owns your soul... Wait damn they are right

LOL! to true,to true.

Rayne Nightfyre · Apr 17, 2006, 12:38 AM // 00:38

Sadly, that is a simple truth.

Misc Merik · Apr 17, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41

Anet had to nerf my soul before they could take it. Apparently it was overpowered.

VGJustice · Apr 17, 2006, 12:49 AM // 00:49

Misconceptions that I've seen people make (take note, I go to the gameFAQs boards):

1) Guild Wars is/isn't an MMORPG
Boy, this one gets fun. On the one hand, it isn't an MMO as every area is instanced, and even towns are limited to the number of people that can be in each district. On the other hand, how often can you play with people living in different countries at the same time? If you go to the International districts, you can team up with people from every country in the world at the same time. You could, in theory, chat to every single player in the whole game that's online at the same time you are.

I honestly think that this one comes down to personal belief, but maybe I'm just crazy?

2) Gold weapons give better damage than a similar Purple/Blue/White weapon, and that's why they are worth more. (taken from the GameFAQs boards, where this was imediatly put to rest)

I have never in my life heard a more crazy statement. This actually made me laugh out loud. Gold weapons are worth more because of a few reasons. Mostly, the mods on the weapons will generally be higher than a similar non-gold weapon, and a lot of it is bling value. But, that's it.

3) Such-and-such class is worthless in PvP/PvE

In my experience, people who say this have no earthly idea what they are talking about, and generally spend too much time in one side or the other. Every class combination has something to offer to both PvP and PvE. It may just take some effort to find what their role really is, and put them into the right place.

4) I don't have enough gold to do what I need to do. (In reference to just playing the PvE content of the game, not farming)

Heh. I was playing with my Monk, and for the first time I beat Thunderhead Keep with her, I was using an Ascalon Quest Reward staff, Droknar's Forge tattoos (800g each), a collector's head tattoo (I found the 5 things I needed for the trade), and Minor Runes. The only reason I had to do it twice was because I forgot to reinfuse my armor, and even then I was able to survive direct hits with Spectral Agony. This assumption is totally baseless. The only reason that people think that Money = Good Character is because they see the prices for weapons in Ascalon and Lion's Arch, and never learn how useful the stuff that's just GIVEN to you really is. It's a shame, really.

5) Sundering is a good mod.

No, it really REALLY isn't.

6) Vampiric is a bad mod.

See above.

I think every other minor misconception has already been noted. Probably not, but whatever.

d4nowar · Apr 17, 2006, 01:00 AM // 01:00

Flagrunning isn't important. - If you say that maybe concider why you are in a rank 2000+ guild...

Two boon prot backline with blood ritual and OoB is the best monk setup you could possibly have. - Same as before.

Yes I've actually heard both of those...

The Renegade Healer · Apr 17, 2006, 01:22 AM // 01:22

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Originally Posted by jules

Uh... lvl 31?

Common misconception that the level cap is set at 20.

</sarcasm>

d4nowar · Apr 17, 2006, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Runes stack with each other. - Just dead wrong.

VGJustice · Apr 17, 2006, 01:35 AM // 01:35

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Originally Posted by d4nowar

Runes stack with each other. - Just dead wrong.

Sure they stack. Only the bad Neg Max Health part, but hey!

Hunter Sharparrow · Apr 17, 2006, 01:40 AM // 01:40

ah that reminds me.

The rune of absorbtion stacks with the absorbtion on certain armor....no.

The absorbtion on certain armor stacks with itself....no.

The absorbtion on certain armor only works if you have the whole set....no.

If someone has only one part of their body covered with armor that has absorbtion as part of the bonus or an absorbtion rune put on that piece then it only works if that piece is hit....no and no.

The "non-stacking" is only if you put a rune on a piece of armor that has the same bonus as the rune(eg. putting absorbtion on knights boots won't stack but puting the absorbtion on plate gloves and wearing knights boots they will stack)....no.

I've heard that the absorbtion on certain armor works against elemental damage as well as physical while the rune only works against physical. I don't think this is true but I don't know for sure. Also that the absorbtion on say droks ascalon or knights is equal to a major absorbtion so unless you can buy or find a superior any other absorbtion on your armor would be a waste of space and money. Again, just heard not sure if it's true.

DJ Josh · Apr 17, 2006, 01:51 AM // 01:51

non-stacking=2 runes of the same type do not stack.e.g.you can't get 28 death magic from having 5 superior death runes equiped.and sup abs does stack with ascalon/knights,at least it does for me(mine is equiped on my ascalon boots).